Hi guys,
We couldn't cover everything in the meeting and I forgot that we need to discuss storage of the trolley. All great ideas about reusing it but all still involve it being stored in Tyree's space until next Feb! She is doing lots of work at home and really needs the space. It's urgent and I am getting hassled!! Any ideas??
Thursday, August 30, 2007
TAC meeting minutes adn discussion points
TAC meeting Monday 27th August
I have organised the points into the three agenda areas so it is easier to read. This means that it is not sequential as the meetings actually ran but will be clearer to follow. Points which require feedback have been marked in italics.
All of the below is my subjective note taking and is open to correction, suggestion, comment, feedback etc.
NEW MEMBERS
All are agreed that we need new members.
Suggestion that new members should be recruited in each area of the diaspora.
Blog would then become group to group post rather than internal communication.
Name suggestions; TAC Wellington, TAC Christchurch etc. The when we do something together we would be TAC United?
So, with suggested new members involved, each TAC project would become under their own regional control. Each group needs to be activated and able to act. Esp as noted by recent problems with blog re communication, loss of energy for group etc.
A group focus could be feeding into a new bio / manifesto which could be used to create a new members pack. Enough history to provide an orientation.
Importance of the power structure remaining level discussed. No experts. Decision making should be consensual.
Manifesto should not be too solid / prescriptive etc. Open; like how we have recorded our processes as conversations. New members could get the assessment of CAMRU as a conversational piece in new members pack.
Differentiation between tac groups can develop. Each group could contribute a chapter to the kit. Organic. There would be a natural progression according to each group’s interests.
Value of the initial openness of the call to TAC. Diverse range of people.
Could use photos in orientation/new members pack.
NEW MEMBERS SUMMARY
New members in each centre
Each centre deciding on how to recruit it’s own members
Create an orientation kit for new members – (photos, manifesto, CAMRU assessment?)
KIT
Use the aesthetic of CAMRU like the scattered notes. Give artists / organisations a page where they could write / draw whatever about their experiences in collaboration.
Flow chart model
Open structure for other collaborative structures to engage with.
Non-directive and non-definitive. Can keep being added to. Could be like a ring binder with new chapters / blank pages.
FUTURE PROJECTS
Developing and spreading TAC
Becoming The Association of Collaborations, ie finding ways to be inclusive of other groups without them having to be part of the every day running. Pages in kit are one way.
Funding application to Creative Communities Wellington. Idea of creating posters about TAC to create interest in group / ideas / new members. Then packs could be sent out after this. This would be relevant for Wellington audience. Other groups apply in own districts? Or may prefer alternative methods of recruitment?
Poster ideas; disseminating info, drawings, text, a series of three, drawing of writing on wall at Enjoy? Good to have a visual project to keep interest up aesthetically. Good to have another tangible project this year.
CAMRU ASSESS – questions for the group
Input are Tom’s questions and Andie’s musings previously on blog.
Discussed these and own input and came up with following Q’s;
What were our individual expectations of the CAMRU project?
What did it do?
What TAC processes worked well?
What TAC processes didn’t work so well?
How effective was CAMRU in communicating with an audience?
What did the responses tell us that was valuable towards understanding the Prospect show?
I have organised the points into the three agenda areas so it is easier to read. This means that it is not sequential as the meetings actually ran but will be clearer to follow. Points which require feedback have been marked in italics.
All of the below is my subjective note taking and is open to correction, suggestion, comment, feedback etc.
NEW MEMBERS
All are agreed that we need new members.
Suggestion that new members should be recruited in each area of the diaspora.
Blog would then become group to group post rather than internal communication.
Name suggestions; TAC Wellington, TAC Christchurch etc. The when we do something together we would be TAC United?
So, with suggested new members involved, each TAC project would become under their own regional control. Each group needs to be activated and able to act. Esp as noted by recent problems with blog re communication, loss of energy for group etc.
A group focus could be feeding into a new bio / manifesto which could be used to create a new members pack. Enough history to provide an orientation.
Importance of the power structure remaining level discussed. No experts. Decision making should be consensual.
Manifesto should not be too solid / prescriptive etc. Open; like how we have recorded our processes as conversations. New members could get the assessment of CAMRU as a conversational piece in new members pack.
Differentiation between tac groups can develop. Each group could contribute a chapter to the kit. Organic. There would be a natural progression according to each group’s interests.
Value of the initial openness of the call to TAC. Diverse range of people.
Could use photos in orientation/new members pack.
NEW MEMBERS SUMMARY
New members in each centre
Each centre deciding on how to recruit it’s own members
Create an orientation kit for new members – (photos, manifesto, CAMRU assessment?)
KIT
Use the aesthetic of CAMRU like the scattered notes. Give artists / organisations a page where they could write / draw whatever about their experiences in collaboration.
Flow chart model
Open structure for other collaborative structures to engage with.
Non-directive and non-definitive. Can keep being added to. Could be like a ring binder with new chapters / blank pages.
FUTURE PROJECTS
Developing and spreading TAC
Becoming The Association of Collaborations, ie finding ways to be inclusive of other groups without them having to be part of the every day running. Pages in kit are one way.
Funding application to Creative Communities Wellington. Idea of creating posters about TAC to create interest in group / ideas / new members. Then packs could be sent out after this. This would be relevant for Wellington audience. Other groups apply in own districts? Or may prefer alternative methods of recruitment?
Poster ideas; disseminating info, drawings, text, a series of three, drawing of writing on wall at Enjoy? Good to have a visual project to keep interest up aesthetically. Good to have another tangible project this year.
CAMRU ASSESS – questions for the group
Input are Tom’s questions and Andie’s musings previously on blog.
Discussed these and own input and came up with following Q’s;
What were our individual expectations of the CAMRU project?
What did it do?
What TAC processes worked well?
What TAC processes didn’t work so well?
How effective was CAMRU in communicating with an audience?
What did the responses tell us that was valuable towards understanding the Prospect show?
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Two-fold catalogue text + images
Hi all,
Would be great to get some feedback about what kind of writing we should include about TAC in the two-fold catalogue. There's only space for about 200 words, this could be a discussion piece, an interview, a piece of collaborative writing, a piece written about us by somebody else. It could even be a re-hashed collage of writing from our blog, blog found poetry! argh! Also any thoughts about images? perhaps we could use the old trusty circle o' chairs!
let me know your thoughts asap, the deadline for text is friday september the 7th... uh-oh! But it's only 200 words, easy-peasy
xA
Would be great to get some feedback about what kind of writing we should include about TAC in the two-fold catalogue. There's only space for about 200 words, this could be a discussion piece, an interview, a piece of collaborative writing, a piece written about us by somebody else. It could even be a re-hashed collage of writing from our blog, blog found poetry! argh! Also any thoughts about images? perhaps we could use the old trusty circle o' chairs!
let me know your thoughts asap, the deadline for text is friday september the 7th... uh-oh! But it's only 200 words, easy-peasy
xA
Thursday, August 23, 2007
Assessment of Prospect
I've been thinking about the necessity of assessing TAC's activity in Prospect in order that me may move onto greener pastures with clear directives, awareness of successes and failures and evident focuses. I don't know if the Wellington meeting of TAC has gone ahead or any discussion has been had a about this?
I thought that since we are all now spread around corners of the globe, one way to collect and assess would be to draw up a number of questions to which each TAC member could respond (perhaps by using the email system). After this we could analyse, assess, see if there are any similarities or wild discrepancies in our responses.
I also thought that these written responses could also partially be used in future documentation of process and potentially some of it could even be re-worked for the toolkit if we decide that is something we want to go ahead with.
A few questions I had thought of so far were:
1. At what stage did you feel most comfortable with TAC's processes?
2. How effective did you feel the trolley project was in engaging with a community wider than the art community?
3. If you could have changed a process in the development of the trolley project, what would you have changed? Why?
ps Best title award goes to Sian for title previous to this one :)
I thought that since we are all now spread around corners of the globe, one way to collect and assess would be to draw up a number of questions to which each TAC member could respond (perhaps by using the email system). After this we could analyse, assess, see if there are any similarities or wild discrepancies in our responses.
I also thought that these written responses could also partially be used in future documentation of process and potentially some of it could even be re-worked for the toolkit if we decide that is something we want to go ahead with.
A few questions I had thought of so far were:
1. At what stage did you feel most comfortable with TAC's processes?
2. How effective did you feel the trolley project was in engaging with a community wider than the art community?
3. If you could have changed a process in the development of the trolley project, what would you have changed? Why?
ps Best title award goes to Sian for title previous to this one :)
Thursday, August 16, 2007
Kit chat
Hi hi
Having looked at that photo and thought it was great.....and also being a good TACCER and making a new post rather than taccing on to the old one with a new subject.....AND using labels.
PHEW.
Anyway. My great idea was about thinking about the kit. And thinking that the element I liked the most about what we did was that it was open and as unjudgemental as we could be. People got to say what they liked and let it be seen. So I wondered if the kit could look something like that? With illustrations and photos like the chairs one and lots of images of peoples comments and stuff rather than long and verbose. Like Liz's visual flowchart was so great and enticing because it looked interesting and good.
My thought is that by describing the project in yummy pictures we create a space for people to think about how they think about artwork and what they want from it and what collaboration is and whether we really were collaborating with the audience or not etc.
I am also thinking about the booklet that MW (is that right?!) made in their Enjoy residency where they asked a bunch of people to describe negative space. Non prescriptive and open and had the feeling that lots more idea could have been added to it too of your own.
Maybe the TAC kit could have blank pages at the end for people to work things out / add to / colour in ?!?!? I guess I just like that idea of it being like a continual work in progress.
PS and no spelling mistakes x
Having looked at that photo and thought it was great.....and also being a good TACCER and making a new post rather than taccing on to the old one with a new subject.....AND using labels.
PHEW.
Anyway. My great idea was about thinking about the kit. And thinking that the element I liked the most about what we did was that it was open and as unjudgemental as we could be. People got to say what they liked and let it be seen. So I wondered if the kit could look something like that? With illustrations and photos like the chairs one and lots of images of peoples comments and stuff rather than long and verbose. Like Liz's visual flowchart was so great and enticing because it looked interesting and good.
My thought is that by describing the project in yummy pictures we create a space for people to think about how they think about artwork and what they want from it and what collaboration is and whether we really were collaborating with the audience or not etc.
I am also thinking about the booklet that MW (is that right?!) made in their Enjoy residency where they asked a bunch of people to describe negative space. Non prescriptive and open and had the feeling that lots more idea could have been added to it too of your own.
Maybe the TAC kit could have blank pages at the end for people to work things out / add to / colour in ?!?!? I guess I just like that idea of it being like a continual work in progress.
PS and no spelling mistakes x
Saturday, August 11, 2007
Wellington TAC regroup - postponed
Sian, Paula and I are now meeting up next week to talk TAC, so there's xtra time to add to our agenda. Anything that you want discussed will be reported back in the minutes. It would be great to get some input and gauge where we are at xL
Friday, August 10, 2007
lecturer interested in our empty chairs
Hello All,
yesterday I was asked for and gave a senior lecturer at Vic this image of our work from 'Every Now and Then' at Enjoy.
Another collaborator metioned that this fact could be of interest to the rest of TAC so here is our correspondence about the inclusion of our documentation in her Sydney Lecture.
I am not sure what angle she plans to take discussing our work, however I thought even analysis of the problematics of this installation is useful and fitting for our project.
Since some curators have complained when TAC hasd posted their correspondence on this blog, all personal references will be removed....
.....1st Email.....
Dear (Enjoy Gallery Employee),
When you talked to my class you showed an image of the chair arrangement set up by the Assoc of Collaboration as part of Mel Oliver's show at Enjoy.
I wonder if you could send me a copy of this, good enough quality to show in a powerpoint?
I'm talking as part of a panel discussion at Artspace in Sydney which is part of a project called Aftermath which is canvassing the relationship of performance and installation.
Many thanks
(Lecturer)
.....2nd Email.....
Hello (Enjoy Gallery Employee),
I wonder if you could let Paula know which image I mean and get her to send it to me?
Thanks
(Lecturer)
.....3rd Email.....( my reply)
hi (Lecturer),
I have sourced an image of TAC's residual post-meeting chair set up, from towards the end of the 'Every Now and Then' show (after a few TAC meetings). Please confirm that this is what you seek, it should be sized appropriatly for powerpoint.
See attached
best wishes, Paula
.....4th Email.....
perfect
thanks
(Lecturer)
Monday, August 06, 2007
Loosing our Threads
My hyperactive brain has been whirring around the problems of the hyperlink gymnastics required to navigate our communications here, AKA: our blog is too hard to read, or too hard to follow. Yes, I put up my hand, I have been the culprit of many a post-jumping dialogue, ramble and generally confusing comment spams.
I had a bit of a surf around the pixel-sphere and would like to report that it is a very common problem on blogs, chatrooms, and in open comment forums etc.
There seems to be whole R&D departments devoting themselves slavishly to the development of conversation smart software, (in other news, Cuba is dumping Microsoft in favour of the open-source operating system Linux), but I digress – and this seems to be one of my main problems!!!! A perfectly wonderful way to be conversational but one of the reasons that our TACblog conversations seem to be fizzling out somewhat.
Me and my search-engine have come up with a whole heap of things we could do to make things easier for ourselves and potential other silent browsers (hi mum ;)
To Post or to Comment on a Post? – why don’t we reserve posts for new topics of conversation, subjects or news OR summaries of older conversations.
One subject postings – if we have something to introduce for discussion, then how about boiling it down to its essential elements and posting it as one subject.
Feed your post – when you make a posting, keep it alive by tracking the discussion, responding to comments and summarising ideas as they develop.
Bestow Titles – use them in your posts and comments to draw attention to the focus and type of your communication. Some examples: brilliant new idea, supporting idea, counter-idea, supporting example, counter-example, extrapolation, summary, reminds me that, catch-up, ramble, problem, solution*.
Subject Labels – Surely they were invented to make blog trawling clearer and more interesting. I suggest you look to the right side for labels that already exist, otherwise make up a relevant new label and begin to add these automatically when you make a post
Images – We’re all aesthetes after all, lets keep our neck of web-land pretty!
I had a bit of a surf around the pixel-sphere and would like to report that it is a very common problem on blogs, chatrooms, and in open comment forums etc.
There seems to be whole R&D departments devoting themselves slavishly to the development of conversation smart software, (in other news, Cuba is dumping Microsoft in favour of the open-source operating system Linux), but I digress – and this seems to be one of my main problems!!!! A perfectly wonderful way to be conversational but one of the reasons that our TACblog conversations seem to be fizzling out somewhat.
Me and my search-engine have come up with a whole heap of things we could do to make things easier for ourselves and potential other silent browsers (hi mum ;)
To Post or to Comment on a Post? – why don’t we reserve posts for new topics of conversation, subjects or news OR summaries of older conversations.
One subject postings – if we have something to introduce for discussion, then how about boiling it down to its essential elements and posting it as one subject.
Feed your post – when you make a posting, keep it alive by tracking the discussion, responding to comments and summarising ideas as they develop.
Bestow Titles – use them in your posts and comments to draw attention to the focus and type of your communication. Some examples: brilliant new idea, supporting idea, counter-idea, supporting example, counter-example, extrapolation, summary, reminds me that, catch-up, ramble, problem, solution*.
Subject Labels – Surely they were invented to make blog trawling clearer and more interesting. I suggest you look to the right side for labels that already exist, otherwise make up a relevant new label and begin to add these automatically when you make a post
Images – We’re all aesthetes after all, lets keep our neck of web-land pretty!
Saturday, August 04, 2007
Banking & 1 week decisions, summary
Admin hats on, buckle your seat belts ...
1 week decisions
summary: We all seem to be in agreement over trialing this process out, so trial starts now and ends on the 4th September. This means checking the blog once a week if you want to keep up with and participate in all small admin decisions.
When you make a posting for a 1 week decision then please enter "1 week decisions " in the subject labels for this post field (at the bottom of window). By doing this we can keep up to date easily by clicking on the 1 week decisions subject label on the side bar.
To keep the discussion coherent all contributions need to be made in the comments section of the posting - not in a seperate posting.
banking/money matters
summary: everyone is in agreement with two people (some combination of Paula, Sian, Tom) opening a Kiwi Bank account under TAC's name, and that Tom will be the treasurer! fantastic! can you Tom, be in charge of working out the details?
If any of the above is unclear or you had a different understanding of it, please comment!!!
1 week decisions
summary: We all seem to be in agreement over trialing this process out, so trial starts now and ends on the 4th September. This means checking the blog once a week if you want to keep up with and participate in all small admin decisions.
When you make a posting for a 1 week decision then please enter "1 week decisions " in the subject labels for this post field (at the bottom of window). By doing this we can keep up to date easily by clicking on the 1 week decisions subject label on the side bar.
To keep the discussion coherent all contributions need to be made in the comments section of the posting - not in a seperate posting.
banking/money matters
summary: everyone is in agreement with two people (some combination of Paula, Sian, Tom) opening a Kiwi Bank account under TAC's name, and that Tom will be the treasurer! fantastic! can you Tom, be in charge of working out the details?
If any of the above is unclear or you had a different understanding of it, please comment!!!
CAMRU home?
Hi all,
So just another practical thing to think about. CAMRU is currently housed in our church / studio space. We have positioned her in a corner so she is taking up the minimum of space.......but it still is rather a lot of space. I am conscious that the corner is in Tyree's workspace and she is making lots more work in there at the moment.
I guess we need to consider a more long term solution ie storage or dismantlement or gift or sale or?! I am loathe to dismantle it after all the work, but I also can't store it indefinately. Perhaps we could consider some other uses for it?
One thing I had wondered was if it could be used as something to do with the Fringe Festival? Very vague ideas at the moment, but I just know that is a really public and outdoor event where it reaches lots of non art audiences................
Could it be somehow used to gather information or be a public beacon for finding out about people's collaborative thoughts / experiences? Could it be the locus for launching a booklet?!
X Sian
So just another practical thing to think about. CAMRU is currently housed in our church / studio space. We have positioned her in a corner so she is taking up the minimum of space.......but it still is rather a lot of space. I am conscious that the corner is in Tyree's workspace and she is making lots more work in there at the moment.
I guess we need to consider a more long term solution ie storage or dismantlement or gift or sale or?! I am loathe to dismantle it after all the work, but I also can't store it indefinately. Perhaps we could consider some other uses for it?
One thing I had wondered was if it could be used as something to do with the Fringe Festival? Very vague ideas at the moment, but I just know that is a really public and outdoor event where it reaches lots of non art audiences................
Could it be somehow used to gather information or be a public beacon for finding out about people's collaborative thoughts / experiences? Could it be the locus for launching a booklet?!
X Sian
Friday, August 03, 2007
Money matters....
Hey all,
So should I go ahead and open up a TAC bank account? What does everyone think? And then we can all have access to the Internet Banking side of things and it can be monitored/perused by everyone? If so, Paula and Liz do you think you could send down the checks and I will desposit them?
Congrats on your fantastic new job Andie - that sounds great! I'm really interested at the moment in the intersection of artist/curator. Part of curating Continuous Memory was to give myself the opportunity to experiment with the role of curator, I guess to learn the parameters, neccessary skills, absences and requirements of the role. Working with just one artist obviously made it quite different to constructing a group show, or art historical survey. Essentially Continuous Memory developed out of a conversation and I found that that was a really productive way of working.
I would be really interested to hear what other takes artist/curators have on the experience and where they see one role ending and the other beginning, if that even happens? As far as my involvement in TAC goes, it was almost like a symbiosis of both positions into one. Did others find that? Sometimes I feel like labelling nouns are more trouble than they are worth!
So should I go ahead and open up a TAC bank account? What does everyone think? And then we can all have access to the Internet Banking side of things and it can be monitored/perused by everyone? If so, Paula and Liz do you think you could send down the checks and I will desposit them?
Congrats on your fantastic new job Andie - that sounds great! I'm really interested at the moment in the intersection of artist/curator. Part of curating Continuous Memory was to give myself the opportunity to experiment with the role of curator, I guess to learn the parameters, neccessary skills, absences and requirements of the role. Working with just one artist obviously made it quite different to constructing a group show, or art historical survey. Essentially Continuous Memory developed out of a conversation and I found that that was a really productive way of working.
I would be really interested to hear what other takes artist/curators have on the experience and where they see one role ending and the other beginning, if that even happens? As far as my involvement in TAC goes, it was almost like a symbiosis of both positions into one. Did others find that? Sometimes I feel like labelling nouns are more trouble than they are worth!
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